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decide he wins either way. he passed it in the house or he will blame going over the fiscal cliff on the republicans if they resist. completely in the driver's seat and he will l decide what is on the table at december 31 at 11:00 at night. >> let's look at the national debt clock. we surpassed the $16 trillion mark. $16.4 trillion. interest on the debt is huge. thereon what bayh boy said recently. >> servicing the debt hard now. this is interest rates at record lows. god forbid something should happen to cause interest rates go up a littlement we have seen nothing yet. interest rates eventually will go up. >> doug: in the negotiations we are ignoring the long-term implications of this. >> people are aware of it. >> part of is it the future generations. the damage that it could do if the interest rate goes up in short-term to the economic interest. the market did not retake alarm we're going over the fiscal cliff. in days to come and the prospects for after the cliff is that the market would say this is alarming that washington can't get the act together. we have to deal with the
not moved anything. so far they are moving on. going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up and protect americans from the tax hike to take place in ten hours. ten hours from now. we can do this. we must do this. >> bret: it's not clear whether they can. it's not clear whether that is all of them believe they must. bring in the panel. jonah goldburg. kirsten powers if for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. begin with the president's statement today that happened mid-day. he framed it as ed henry said as campaign style event. middle class families behind him. didn't have a lot of details and has had the same feel as he has had many tim
is determining what passed the republican-led house and democrat-controlled senate. fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get something done. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? the closer we get to the end the less likely you will compress agreement in place that will have it pass. >> this struggle over the future of the country some suggest is not that different than what many americans face in their daily lives. >> this is no different than marriage. a lot of marriages fail because they fight over money. that i get heavily in debt and they fight over money issues. we as a nation are right now
. >> charles? >> well, you know, there are two events that will happen january 1. one is the fiscal cliff, which i still think is likely, likely we will go over. maybe 60% chance. there could belag-minute proposal if obama is somewhat generous, not as arrogant and offers something that a small number of republicans in the house could support. there is a scenario where you wouldn't go over the cliff. he proposes a slight compromise on the level at which you get the higher taxes, $400,000. extension of unemployment stops with that. essentially. then if boehner were to allow a free open vote, then you could get 180 democrats plus 30 republicans. it could happen. >> doug: voila. >> that is the only scenario. possible one. >> doug: sounds so easy. >> yeah. a lot of this stuff is in principle easy. remember, obama was never interested in solving the fiscal issues. he wanted to break the republicans. he did. there is no civil war on the republican side that makes him sovereign in washington. a great political achievement. the other event is the debt ceiling. happening on january 1. the delicious
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